rockit.ET vs Serious Incident Called Karma (10800 views)

be chry
gb koop
ee Night
is phyzic
gb sqzz
gb razz
fr An7ho
ee freeze
de KRESTi
de Oxy
mt toxic
fi twidi
fr yokoo

ClanBase ET EuroCup XXVII
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Upper Bracket Round 2
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League: CB ET EuroCup XXVII » Matchlink
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sick6 might just take it

gl oxy and koop
Hope Sick6 will win this
squall
gl friend An7ho :)
gl Nait
Gl nait, pls respond i am big fAn
No mAus NO ET
gl An7hoboulette
too many nerds in one match
gl An7ho!
gl An7ho,sqzz & toxic
wont be played today
why not?
cause of some gay rtcw offi
Well thats just not good enough...i have beer. pop corn. ill be forced to spec the decerto game at tthis rate!!
it must be played tomorrow then!
amen brother
you don't dictate my life!
only your EC gaming life :)
gl sick rocking turbofraternity twidi <3
gl fitipsa :D
twidi isn't allowed to play in this match since he played in turbot vs tMoe today
gl fi Olbaa
After all those days away from ettv stadiums, I may come back to cheer and bring good vibes in there.
Finally a decent match to be watched in 2013!!!
See you tonight guys.
Awesomely yours,

Colonel LeFrancis - Retired Professional Hardcore Addicted Gayming Leader of #follow.et eSport Club since 2008 - Best driver, also known as Usain Bolt - Shoutcaster of Enemy Territory in 2009-2010-2011. 8th CF journal poster of the year 2011
avi for this

:O)
avi to replace twidi
won't be necessary
I can feel e-drama coming in the air tonight, Oh Lord
I've been waiting for this moment for all my life, Oh Lord
I can feel e-drama coming in the air tonight, Oh Lord, Oh Lord
we've agreed with rockit that the game will be played in any case, whether it's just a show match or a playoffs game, so viewers don't have anything to worry about
nice! can't wait!!!
Yay!
So basically you're forfeiting the game and this is a showmatch?

Since if you play ohurcool is going to give the forfeit anyway
tbh dont understand why you play with turbot when you know you play with sick6
because these days it is so rare to have the chance to play a decent 6on6 game between two clans that I'll take the opportunity when I can

also I already merced for 2 teams (rockit and bF) during this season and there were no consequences on either case, so I thought the same line would be used throughout the tournament
so just because you like to play ET, teams are going to get forfeits whenever you feel like you wanna merc for them? even though you know that this may result in a forfeit loss anyway :D

+ all games that you merced were cancelled/forfeited on Clanbase, because of you. You can check it below on these 2 links.

http://clanbase.ggl.com/warinfo.php?wid=11585583
http://clanbase.ggl.com/warinfo.php?wid=11584471

according to this and the fact that I noticed you started to read EC rules very carefully, thanks to you a game between tMoe and turbot should be cancelled as well and a forfeit should be given to us. And the same will happen if you play your today's game vs rockit.
"according to this and the fact that I noticed you started to read EC rules very carefully"

I've always been extremely aware of all the rules in the tournaments I participate in. The rules just are never applied as they're written, read my reply below.

Also every single team I merced for, asked me to play for them. So each of the teams actually wanted to use a player who they knew wasn't allowed to play by the rules.
it's nice to see that you care about the viewers, if only you actually paid any attention to the rules as well

if I see you playing in this match, then I'll just cancel it here on GTV and add the forfeit loss on CB

feel free to request a showmatch on your own with whichever teams and lineups you want, but EC is not a contest to see how many teams you can play in
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"it's nice to see you care about the viewers, if only you actually paid any attention to the rules as well"

The only problem with that is that each supervisor threats the rules as they wish and the exact cup rules are never applied. For a player/clan it is impossible to know what will happen on any given scenario as you don't have a rulebook you could follow. Basically what you'd have to do would be to always ask the supervisor for his take on the rules on that day. Also when EC/NC has had multiple supervisors it has been very common that the supervisors are seeing and judging the scenarios in a different way.

In before you say that the cup rules have been followed, can you answer to the following questions:

1. Why haven't bF, Queens (rockit) and turbot received a red card according to rule 5.6.?

2. Why haven't I received a single red card and still been allowed to play in the tournament, when I should've already received three (3) red cards according to rule 5.10. and according to rule 1.5. been kicked out of the tournament?

3. Why hasn't the game between turbot and tMoe forfeited? (which should've happened according to rule 5.6. again)

Cup rules can be found from here: http://clanbase.ggl.com/rules.php?lid=13122

Given yellow/red cards can be seen from here: http://clanbase.ggl.com/cupcard.php?lid=13122
Cuz ohuradmin doesn't like cards (cba finding logs)
So he doesen't like following the rules his tournament supposedly has? Or perhaps has been too lazy/ignorant to change the rules to be accurate?
My comment on that matter would have to be too long (with links and examples) so I'll just say I've been removed as ref for following the rules.
ahahahhahah
AND IT'S ALL YOUR FAULT D:
Rule changes? Are you suggesting that we start allowing players to play for multiple teams?
I agree, you should all get banned.

Decerto gold pocal..
Quoteeach supervisor threats the rules as they wish

This is not true. Even if it was true, it is irrelevant because I am the only active EC supervisor at the moment.

Quotethe exact cup rules are never applied

Many of the cup rules are "global rules" which apply to all cups on ClanBase, including those for other games. We cannot remove or edit these rules for the sake of ET only, so we simply choose to be more strict with some rules and less strict with others. This is not something new or different or weird - it has been like this for a long time, before I even joined ClanBase.

Either way, this is not the case here. It is common sense that a player should play for 1 team only in a cup.

QuoteFor a player/clan it is impossible to know what will happen on any given scenario as you don't have a rulebook you could follow. Basically what you'd have to do would be to always ask the supervisor for his take on the rules on that day.

That's a silly thing to say. When has it ever been allowed to play for as many teams as you'd like in EC, or in any other cup for that matter? It's one of the basic principles/rules of a cup. Ask Artstar or MerlinatoR regarding their CF cup, or ask someone who runs one-day cups. Again, it is common sense and should not come as a surprise to anyone.

Besides, what's wrong with asking me or another admin first? This could have easily been avoided if you had done just that.

QuoteAlso when EC/NC has had multiple supervisors it has been very common that the supervisors are seeing and judging the scenarios in a different way.

Maybe it has happened in the past, but once again: this is irrelevant. I'm the only one running EC, and no sane admin would allow a player to play for 3+ teams in 1 cup anyway.

Quotecan you answer to the following questions:

1. Why haven't bF, Queens (rockit) and turbot received a red card according to rule 5.6.?

2. Why haven't I received a single red card and still been allowed to play in the tournament, when I should've already received three (3) red cards according to rule 5.10. and according to rule 1.5. been kicked out of the tournament?

3. Why hasn't the game between turbot and tMoe forfeited? (which should've happened according to rule 5.6. again)

bF:

http://www.gamestv.org/event/40376-belgian-fraternity-vs-archers-pl/#comment1056702
http://clanbase.ggl.com/warinfo.php?wid=11584471

Both teams used mercs / disallowed players in a match where the score had already had been entered as a noshow win for archers. The match played with mercs was therefore cancelled and did not "count".

Ri:

http://www.gamestv.org/event/40519-rockit-et-vs-archers-pl/
http://clanbase.ggl.com/warinfo.php?wid=11585583

Again, both teams used mercs / disallowed players. The score was entered as a double forfeit.

turbot:

I was planning to enter the score as a forfeit win for tMoe, but fanatic decided that they couldn't be bothered playing in the cup any more and would rather take the 4-0 loss.

I do not usually give out cards for EC, since the majority of teams/players in the cup already know the rules and hardly visit the website anyway. It's not like you wouldn't have merc'd for turbot yesterday if I had assigned red cards to bF and Ri, so please don't pretend like that is the issue.

You simply cannot play for 4 teams in 1 cup, and you certainly can't play for team A on a Sunday and team B on the following Monday. Not only is this common sense, but it's also something you should know (and I believe you did know, but decided to do it anyway) considering how long you've been playing.

EDIT: You can play in this match for sick6 as well as in all of sick6's future EC XXVII matches. Any more mercing from you will simply result in an automatic forfeit loss for the team you merc'd for and the removal of sick6 from the cup. The score of tMoe vs turbot has been changed to a forfeit win for tMoe.
Point is, either you enforce rules globally or.. not at all. You're picking which cases to intervene with and which aren't worthy your attention merely because they, may, or may not be of the same "high value" as this one is. According to clanbase rules our clan alongside 3 others should have been disqualified from EC already, as well as several ACTIVE players shouldn't be allowed to continue playing this game, in your cups, yet they do. Either enforce them all, or don't bother, because quite frankly, right now, you're just being a biased little prick that thinks he has to demonstrate his power. Being a hypocrite isn't going to do anyone any good.

The community is already starving of players as is, it's a wonder we even have teams playing at all given the fact that just about every single team playing EC has been using mercs or is undergoing rooster changes on an offi to offi basis, no point to further cause drama and ruin everyones fun just because you think you have to be all nazi about mercs now.
QuotePoint is, either you enforce rules globally or.. not at all. You're picking which cases to intervene with and which aren't worthy your attention merely because they, may, or may not be of the same "high value" as this one is.

This is not true. There have been dozens of cases in EC/OC this season in which teams used or tried using players from other teams. The decision has been the same in every case. It simply would not be fair to the other teams in EC/OC if I allowed it for this match simply because it's going to be a nice match to spectate. I understand that you may not be entirely aware of what happens in OC with rules and such, but that doesn't mean you're right.

QuoteAccording to clanbase rules our clan alongside 3 others should have been disqualified from EC already, as well as several ACTIVE players shouldn't be allowed to continue playing this game, in your cups, yet they do. Either enforce them all, or don't bother, because quite frankly, right now, you're just being a biased little prick that thinks he has to demonstrate his power. Being a hypocrite isn't going to do anyone any good.

So your solution is to remove 4 teams and "several players" from EC? How exactly would that help?

I am not biased. I have no reason to be biased.

Read my reply to twidi. It has never been allowed to play for 4 teams in 1 cup, ever. It's common sense.

QuoteThe community is already starving of players as is, it's a wonder we even have teams playing at all given the fact that just about every single team playing EC has been using mercs or is undergoing rooster changes on an offi to offi basis, no point to further cause drama and ruin everyones fun just because you think you have to be all nazi about mercs now.

This is not something new, nor is it something that I'm just starting now. You only think that because the "drama" hasn't involved your team until now. Plenty of teams have been able to find enough players without using mercs at all throughout the entire tournament. Lack of activity is no excuse to break the rules multiple times.
So, let me get this straight:

None of the teams are asking a forfeit, it's even the exact opposite where they are publically stating that they do not even want the forfeit and despite that you're still going to enforce the rules. You're basically killing the very little part that's left of this community because you somehow, apparently, feel the need to demonstrate your "power". Yet you don't even demonstrate this "power" everywhere, you're randomly enforcing rules for some games while you ignore others. That's pretty messed up.

I thought it couldn't get any worse when we had Donex. I was obviously wrong since Fanatic popped up a couple of years later but at the very least I was 100% sure then that we had hit rock-bottom since I personally could not imagine someone less suited for the job than that retard.

How wrong was I.
why do you even mention me if I have never been a Clanbase Supervisor? :D you're just talking some bullshits about me without any proofs. just shows how clueless you really are. ain't gonna even call you a retard or an idiot, because it's too obvious. don't even bother.
You're an annoying little prick so you fit right into the list of people that I mentioned, fuck do I care who has which position at CB.
QuoteNone of the teams are asking a forfeit, it's even the exact opposite where they are publically stating that they do not even want the forfeit and despite that you're still going to enforce the rules.

Where is Ri stating that they don't want the forfeit? I don't see it.

Rules have to be followed, and violations of the rules have to be punished.

QuoteYou're basically killing the very little part that's left of this community because you somehow, apparently, feel the need to demonstrate your "power".

Tell that to all of the other teams who have managed to compete in EC/OC this season without using any disallowed players or breaking the rules at all. I'm fairly certain that they would disagree with you in regards to my "killing the community" by simply enforcing rules and common sense.

QuoteYet you don't even demonstrate this "power" everywhere, you're randomly enforcing rules for some games while you ignore others.

This is not true. Read my other replies.
I am playing for one of the teams that have not broken any rules and I do disagree with you.
Then you are simply delusional.
Says the guy that changed his opinion so quickly to mine.
My opinions remain the same, only my decision has changed.

It has nothing to do with you or your comments on this page.
Hi I am Kevin and I don´t know what delusional means.
Don't be upset child, no reason to.
who is upset? Lol let me answer: YOU , didnt you write a mad paragraph whining above about smth that doesnt even has anything to do with you :D? "Child"
Very upset.
goat dance
cmon its 2013. CB should send winner's prize before they act like serious biznisz. Future still waiting for his headset, since 2006 or sth.. please... ./
y u dont want twidi play, this is all about viewers and a gold.gif, lolz
avi to replace clown lol
avi to replace chry
+1 hAte&BiGGie gna carry you :) GREEN POWER ^^
CHEERS
Dr Josef Mengele
DOBRZE GADA 88
sam sobie odpisujesz?
???? O co Ci czlowieku chodzi ?? GDZIEZBYM SMIAL ;-)
CZIKI CZIKI BANG SUCZYSYNU :*:*:*
czas isc do lekarza..
A SKAD WIESZ ZE JUZ NIE BYLEM HEE ?? MOZE MOJA GLUPOTA JEST NIEULECZALNA ?? CHCIALES COS WYKEROWAC ALE CI NIE WYSZLO GOSCIU ;-( A MY SIE W OGOLE ZNAMY ?? BO NIE WYDAJE MI SIE ! ! NIE ZYCZE SOBIE ABYS DO MNIE PAROBKU W TAKIM RAZIE PISAL, MAM NADZIEJE ZE SIE ROZUMIEMY ?!
POZDRO WUJEK MENGELE
- caps
na takich debiili nie ma rady. DAJESZ !!!!!!!!!!!!!! TYLKO MOCNIEJ
;DD
avi to replace An7ho
why is there an empty slot lol. twidi should be defaulted to every game on gtv
if u delay this a couple of days cabN can play np
He's counting the days, I heard he lost some weight while he was ban lol
mad people everywhere
avi to ownage
can we give them twidi since he isn't allowed to play for us and we take chry?
/q Seigen at IRC
:DDDDDDDDDDD
zamknij ryj, miales swoje 5 min na spec w finale UK vs PL
i w EC ostatnio
wow wszyscy sa zachwyceni...
idź trenuj żeby pucharek w OC prem był
2013 and buisness haha, i still dont remember that i played yesterday :D
sqzz zrobi robote
I DONT LIKE THE FACT THAT BN ISNT IN ANY TEAM; WHY SHOULD I WATCH THIS; NO DRAMA; OH WAIT! WHATS THAT! MAD ADMINS!
e-drame incoming in few mins ... :DDD
let twidi play !
twidi can play in this match for sick6 as well as in all of sick6's future EC XXVII matches. Any more mercing from him will simply result in an automatic forfeit loss for the team he merc'd for and the removal of sick6 from the cup. The score of tMoe vs turbot has been changed to a forfeit win for tMoe.
"yo admins, if you gonna follow rules, follow them by the book"
Admin follow rules by the book
"yo admins, those rules are way too strict wtf niggah"

lol nerds
lol twidi just fucked up turbot>>>due to kevin&oxy whining huehueh
gl freeze
gl freeze
avi to replace someone
So what i can round up from these walls of text is that, as long as viewers gets what they want its okey to do what ever the fuck you want? Then take me next time and ill give you something great to specc
Oh, sad that you think that i dont have anything but banned tzac accounts :(
Sad that you think you wont get caught again if you use them.
We'll see
Exciting
you mad cause bad? , hahaha weslann ok
So you changed IP as well?
See you soon, cocksocker (on tzac ban list)
And btw: weren't you quitting et? nice life!
who's ddhd?
yokoo
yokoo
I think I already replied to him, what u think timbolina?
gl Ri
chry trying to use my tax... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YW09bckEtL8
MVP
sick6 ddhd 69 259 34 49 5 0 1 7 6682 8797 125 0/0 1/2 34/28 0/11 197 180 6 6

IM JUST SAYIN ...
bug stats !!

IM JUST SAYIN ...
Not really. Those are his ACTUAL stats. He didn't play the 2nd round of Radar though, Kresti did.
he didnt do bad on radar defence. But thats not weird on the other side, the whole team did good.
He didnt do good on gr though.:(
nazty, go play after 2 blunt 6v6 with 4 ppl u never played with against rockit.
Then if u do better u can talk :[
2 blunts? Damn I get it now, my bad
its pretty nothing :XD
stfu, u can go merc for sick6 next time I guess ? :D